Section AMR: Descendants of Sir John de Somery

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Report generated by MagiCensus Deluxe v5.5.5 on 16 Sept. 2024
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Generation One

1. SIR JOHN1 DE SOMERY was born between 1071/2 and 1138, and died between 1131 and 1248. He married (AGU-3) HAWISE PAYNEL, daughter of (AGU-2) Ralph and (QC-6) _____ (FERRERS) PAYNEL. [4, 9]
Child:
+2i.RALPH2 DE SOMERY of Warwick, Warwickshire, England, United Kingdom, b. about 1142 of Warwick; d. in 1211[2]; m. (ABQ-2) MARGARET MARSHAL of Warwick, b. of Warwick about 1146, daughter of (ABQ-1) John and _____ (HAWISE) MARSHAL.

Generation Two

2. RALPH2 DE SOMERY (John1) of Warwick, son of (1) Sir John1 and (AGU-3) Hawise (PAYNEL), was born between 1134/5 and 1152 of Warwick, and died in 1211[2]. He married (ABQ-2) MARGARET MARSHAL of Warwick, daughter of (ABQ-1) John and _____ (HAWISE) MARSHAL, who was born about 1146 of Warwick. [3]
Children:
3i.RALPH3 DE SOMERY, b. about 1180/1; d. in 1212[2]; m. (RV-31) IDA DE LONGESPEE, d. about 1290[2], daughter of (RV-21) William, Earl of Salisbury and (AKK-4) Ela (of SALISBURY), Countess of Salisbury.
+4ii.JOAN DE SOMERY of Gloucestershire, England, b. about 1191 of Gloucestershire; d. on 22 May 1276; m. about 1217 of Gloucestershire (H-5) LORD THOMAS "THE OBSERVER" BERKELEY of Berkeley, Gloucestershire, b. of Berkeley about 1170, d. on 29 Nov. 1243, son of (H-4) Maurice and (ET-4) Alice (de BERKELEY) DE BERKELEY.
+5iii.ROGER DE SOMERY, b. about 1205[1]; d. on 26 Aug. 1273[1, 19]; m. (1) (ND-10) NICHOLE D'AUBIGNY, d. about 1240[7], daughter of (ND-8) William IV, 3rd Earl of Arundel and (C-12) Mabel (of CHESTER); m. (2) before 1254 AMABILIA DE CHAUCOMBE, b. about 1233, d. about 1280[2].

Generation Three

4. JOAN3 DE SOMERY (Ralph2, John1) of Gloucestershire, daughter of (2) Ralph2 and (ABQ-2) Margaret (MARSHAL) DE SOMERY, was born about 1191 of Gloucestershire, died on 22 May 1276 and was buried in Monastery, St Augustines, Bristol, Gloucestershire. She married of Gloucestershire, about 1217, (H-5) LORD THOMAS "THE OBSERVER" BERKELEY of Berkeley, son of (H-4) Maurice and (ET-4) Alice (de BERKELEY) DE BERKELEY, who was born about 1170 of Berkeley, died on 29 Nov. 1243, and was buried in Monastery, St. Augustine's, Bristol.
Child: See (H-5) Lord Thomas "the Observer" BERKELEY
5. ROGER3 DE SOMERY (Ralph2, John1), son of (2) Ralph2 and (ABQ-2) Margaret (MARSHAL) DE SOMERY, was born between 1195 and 1211[1], and died on 26 Aug. 1273[1, 19]. He married (1st) (ND-10) NICHOLE D'AUBIGNY, daughter of (ND-8) William IV, 3rd Earl of Arundel and (C-12) Mabel (of CHESTER), who died about 1240[7]. He married (2nd) before 1254, AMABILIA DE CHAUCOMBE, who was born about 1233, and died about 1280[2]. [8, 12, 16, 17]
Buck & Beard incorrectly list him as son of John Somery and Hawise de Paynell.
This is corrected in Weis.
Children of: Roger3 de SOMERY and Nichole D'AUBIGNY:
+6i.MARGARET4 DE SOMERY, b. about 1230[1]; d. between 18 June 1293 and 31 Dec. 4095[18]; m. about 1245 (DW-2) BARON RALPH BASSETT of Drayton, Staffordshire, England, b. of Drayton in 1215, d. in Evesham, Worcestershire, England[11] on 4 Aug. 1265[11], son of (DW-1) Ralph BASSET.
7ii.JOAN DE SOMERY, b. about 1230/1; d. in 1282[2]; m. (ANT-3) JOHN LE STRANGE IV of Chesawardine, Shropshire, England, b. of Chesawardine about 1226, d. in Knockin, Warwickshire in 1276, son of (ANT-1) John III and (APV-3) Lucy (de TREGOZ).

Child of: Roger3 de SOMERY and Amabilia de CHAUCOMBE:
+8i.ROGER4 DE SOMERY of Dinas Powis, Wales, United Kingdom, b. on 24 June 1255 of Dinas Powis; d. on 11 Oct. 1291; m. AGNES _____, b. about 1255, d. on 23 Nov. 1308.

Generation Four

6. MARGARET4 DE SOMERY (Roger3, Ralph2, John1), daughter of (5) Roger3 and (ND-10) Nichole (D'AUBIGNY) DE SOMERY, was born between 1208/9 and 1238[1], and died between 18 June 1293 and 31 Dec. 4095[18]. She married about 1245, (DW-2) BARON RALPH BASSETT of Drayton, son of (DW-1) Ralph BASSET, who was born in 1215 of Drayton, and died on 4 Aug. 1265[11] in Evesham[11]. [12, 13, 20]
Child: See (DW-2) Baron Ralph BASSETT
8. ROGER4 DE SOMERY (Roger3, Ralph2, John1) of Dinas Powis, son of (5) Roger3 and Amabilia (de CHAUCOMBE) DE SOMERY, was born on 24 June 1255 of Dinas Powis, and died on 11 Oct. 1291. He married AGNES _____, who was born about 1255, and died on 23 Nov. 1308. [5, 14]
Children:
9i.JOHN5 DE SOMERY, b. about 1280; d. about 1300.
+10ii.MARGARET DE SOMERY of Dudley, Worcestershire, b. about 1286 of Dudley; d. in 1384 in England; m. (AOC-3) JOHN SUTTON, [BARON DUDLEY] of Dudley, b. of Dudley about 1286, d. about 1320, son of (AOC-2) Richard and (AGO-2) Isabella (PATRICK) SUTTON.
+11iii.JOAN DE SOMERY, b. about 1292[14]; d. between 18 Jan. 1327 and 31 Dec. 4095[2]; m. (GH-3) THOMAS DE BOTETOURTE, d. in 1322[2], son of (GH-2) John, 1st Baron Botetourte and (QV-3) Maud (FITZ THOMAS).

Generation Five

10. MARGARET5 DE SOMERY (Roger4, Roger3, Ralph2, John1) of Dudley, daughter of (8) Roger4 and Agnes (_____) DE SOMERY, was born between 1273 and 1292 of Dudley, and died in 1384 in England. She married (AOC-3) JOHN SUTTON, [BARON DUDLEY] of Dudley, son of (AOC-2) Richard and (AGO-2) Isabella (PATRICK) SUTTON, who was born about 1286 of Dudley, and died about 1320. [6]
Child: See (AOC-3) John SUTTON, [baron Dudley]
11. JOAN5 DE SOMERY (Roger4, Roger3, Ralph2, John1), daughter of (8) Roger4 and Agnes (_____) DE SOMERY, was born between 1269 and 1292[14], and died between 18 Jan. 1327 and 31 Dec. 4095[2]. She married (GH-3) THOMAS DE BOTETOURTE, son of (GH-2) John, 1st Baron Botetourte and (QV-3) Maud (FITZ THOMAS), who died in 1322[2]. [10, 15]
Child: See (GH-3) Thomas de BOTETOURTE


1. Michel L.Call, Royal Ancestry Bible (Salt Lake City, Utah: Heritage Creations, 2005), 2926.
2. Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th ed. (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1999).
3. Ibid., (55-27A, 81-28).
4. Ibid., (81-27).
5. Ibid., (81-30).
6. Ibid., (81-31).
7. J. Orton Buck and Timothy Field Beard, Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. III (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1978), 152.
8. Ibid., 152, 305.
9. Ibid., 305.
10. Ibid., 7.
11. Aileen Lewers Langston and J. Orton Buck, Jr., Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. II (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1974), 105.
12. Ibid., 62, 105.
13. Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, 5th ed. (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1999), (136-3, 138-3).
14. Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2004), 137.
15. Gary Boyd Roberts, Royal Descents of 500 Immigrants (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2002), 352, 361, 363.
16. Ibid., 389, 409.
17. Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700, 8th ed. (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2004), (55-29, 81-29).
18. Ibid., (55-30, 210-31).
19. Ibid., (81-29).
20. Ancestral File, CD-ROM database (Salt Lake City: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1998).