Section AE: Descendants of Ragemer _____

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Report generated by MagiCensus Deluxe v5.1.0 on 29 June 2017
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Generation One

1. RAGEMER1 _____ was born between 907 and 1104, and died between 1018 and 1118[12, 13]. [12, 13]
Child:
+2i.WALTER2 _____, b. about 1000/1.


Generation Two

2. WALTER2 _____ (Ragemer _____1), son of (1) Ragemer1 _____, was born between 927/8 and 1119, and died between 987/8 and 1228. [12, 13]
Child:
+3i.WILLIAM FITZWALTER3 OF WELLE, b. about 1100; d. before 1198[12, 13]; m. (RN-2) _____ GANT, daughter of (RN-1) Walter and (HC-2) Maud (of BRITTANY) DE GANT.


Generation Three

3. WILLIAM FITZWALTER3 OF WELLE (Walter _____2, Ragemer _____1), son of (2) Walter2 _____, was born between 987 and 1184, and died between 1098 and 1198[12, 13]. He married (RN-2) _____ GANT, daughter of (RN-1) Walter and (HC-2) Maud (of BRITTANY) DE GANT. [12, 13]
"Coat of Arms - The Medieval Baron de Welles Family" shows him as "Walter", son of Walter.

"Stirnet Genealogy" shows him as "William", son of Walter.
Child:
+4i.ROBERT FITZWILLIAM4 DE WELLE, b. about 1150; d. before Dec. 1206[12]; m. MAUD _____, d. after 1206[13].


Generation Four

4. ROBERT FITZWILLIAM4 DE WELLE (William FitzWalter of WELLE3, Walter _____2, Ragemer _____1), son of (3) William FitzWalter3 and (RN-2) _____ (GANT) OF WELLE, was born between 1071/2 and 1186, and died between 1131/2 and 1206[12]. He married MAUD _____, who died after 1206[13]. [12, 13]
Child:
+5i.WILLIAM5 DE WELLE, b. before 1200[13]; d. in 1241[12, 13]; m. about 1207[13] EMMA DE GRAINSBY.


Generation Five

5. WILLIAM5 DE WELLE (Robert FitzWilliam4, William FitzWalter of WELLE3, Walter _____2, Ragemer _____1), son of (4) Robert FitzWilliam4 and Maud (_____) DE WELLE, was born before 1200[13], and died about 1241[12, 13]. He married about 1207[13], EMMA DE GRAINSBY. [12, 13]
Child:
+6i.ROBERT6 DE WELLE, b. about 1190/1; d. before 24 Sept. 1265[12]; m. ISABEL DE PERITON, d. before 5 Jan. 1314/5[12].


Generation Six

6. ROBERT6 DE WELLE (William5, Robert FitzWilliam4, William FitzWalter of WELLE3, Walter _____2, Ragemer _____1), son of (5) William5 and Emma (de GRAINSBY) DE WELLE, was born between 1145/6 and 1242, and died between 1159 and 24 Sept. 1265[12]. He married ISABEL DE PERITON, who died before 5 Jan. 1314/5[12]. [12, 13]
Child:
+7i.ADAM7 DE WELLE, 1ST LORD WELLES, b. about 1266; d. on 1 Sept. 1311[12]; m. on 18 July 1310[13] (PL-2) JOAN ENGAINE, d. on 1 June 1315[12], daughter of (PL-1) Sir John and (SY-2) Joan (de GREINVILLE).


Generation Seven

7. ADAM7 DE WELLE, 1ST LORD WELLES (Robert6, William5, Robert FitzWilliam4, William FitzWalter of WELLE3, Walter _____2, Ragemer _____1), son of (6) Robert6 and Isabel (de PERITON) DE WELLE, was born between 1244 and 1266, and died on 1 Sept. 1311[12]. He married on 18 July 1310[13], (PL-2) JOAN ENGAINE, daughter of (PL-1) Sir John and (SY-2) Joan (de GREINVILLE), who died on 1 June 1315[12]. [12, 13]
Burke's Extinct Peerage identifies the father of Adam, 1st Lord, as William (son of William) who married Isabel de Vesci. We follow the Complete Peerage[12]
Child:
+8i.ADAM8 DE WELLE, 3RD LORD WELLES, b. on 22 July 1304[12, 13]; d. in Feb. 1344/5[12, 13]; m. before 1334[11] MARGARET _____.


Generation Eight

8. ADAM8 DE WELLE, 3RD LORD WELLES (Adam7, Robert6, William5, Robert FitzWilliam4, William FitzWalter of WELLE3, Walter _____2, Ragemer _____1), son of (7) Adam7, 1st Lord Welles and (PL-2) Joan (ENGAINE), was born on 22 July 1304[12, 13], and died in Feb. 1345[12, 13]. He married before 1334[11], MARGARET _____. [14, 12, 13]
Burke's Extinct Peerage reports that Margaret was daughter of John, (3rd) Lord Bardolf. TCP reports that that John Bardolf was one of Adam's son John's godparents. The dates certainly make it more likely that, as separately suggested by the Complete Peerage, the 2nd Lord Bardolf was Margaret's father rather than the 3rd Lord.[12]
Richardson's "Plantagenet Ancestry" states that John Bardolf (3rd Lord Bardolf) and Elizabeth Damory had one son, William, and two daughters, Isabel and Agnes. (No Margaret)[6]
Richardson's "Magna Charta Ancestry" just lists her as "Margaret" (no surname).[14]
Child:
+9i.JOHN9 DE WELLES, 4TH LORD WELLES, b. on 23 Aug. 1334[12]; d. on 11 Oct. 1361[12]; m. (AJM-11) MAUD DE ROOS, d. on 9 Dec. 1388[12], daughter of (AJM-10) William, 2nd Lord Roos of Helmsley and (CV-7) Margery (de BADLESMERE).


Generation Nine

9. JOHN9 DE WELLES, 4TH LORD WELLES (Adam8, Adam7, Robert6, William5, Robert FitzWilliam4, William FitzWalter of WELLE3, Walter _____2, Ragemer _____1), son of (8) Adam8, 3rd Lord Welles and Margaret (_____), was born on 23 Aug. 1334[12], and died on 11 Oct. 1361[12]. He married (AJM-11) MAUD DE ROOS, daughter of (AJM-10) William, 2nd Lord Roos of Helmsley and (CV-7) Margery (de BADLESMERE), who died on 9 Dec. 1388[12]. [7, 14, 12, 16, 13]
Child:
+10i.JOHN10 DE WELLES, 5TH BARON WELLES, b. on 20 April 1352[7] in Conisholme, Lincolnshire, England, United Kingdom[7]; d. on 26 Aug. 1421[7]; m. before 1368[7] (MX-11) ELEANOR DE MOWBRAY of Epworth, Isle of Axholme, Lincolnshire, b. before 1361[7], d. between 1399 and 1417[7], daughter of (MX-10) John, 4th Baron Mowbray and (AKU-3) Elizabeth (de SEGRAVE), Baroness.


Generation Ten

10. JOHN10 DE WELLES, 5TH BARON WELLES (John9, Adam8, Adam7, Robert6, William5, Robert FitzWilliam4, William FitzWalter of WELLE3, Walter _____2, Ragemer _____1), son of (9) John9, 4th Lord Welles and (AJM-11) Maud (de ROOS), was born on 20 April 1352[7] in Conisholme[7], and died on 26 Aug. 1421[7]. He married before 1368[7], (MX-11) ELEANOR DE MOWBRAY of Epworth, daughter of (MX-10) John, 4th Baron Mowbray and (AKU-3) Elizabeth (de SEGRAVE), Baroness, who was born before 1361[7], and died between 1399 and 1417[7]. [1, 7, 4, 2, 8, 16, 15]
2nd Baron Welles of Gainsby.[3]
Child:
+11i.EUDO11 DE WELLES, b. about 1340 in Gainsby; d. before 1421; m. (AN-13) MAUD DE GREYSTOKE, b. about 1340, daughter of (AN-12) Ralph, 3rd Lord Greystoke and (Q-119) Katherine (de CLIFFORD).


Generation Eleven

11. EUDO11 DE WELLES (John10, John9, Adam8, Adam7, Robert6, William5, Robert FitzWilliam4, William FitzWalter of WELLE3, Walter _____2, Ragemer _____1), son of (10) John10, 5th Baron Welles and (MX-11) Eleanor (de MOWBRAY), was born about 1340 in Gainsby, and died between 1364 and 1421. He married (AN-13) MAUD DE GREYSTOKE, daughter of (AN-12) Ralph, 3rd Lord Greystoke and (Q-119) Katherine (de CLIFFORD), who was born about 1340. [1, 7, 5, 2, 9, 16, 15]
Children:
+12i.SIR WILLIAM12 DE WELLES, b. about 1370/1; m. ANNE BARNEWALL of Crickstown.
13ii.SIR LIONEL DE WELLES, b. about 1365; m. JOAN WATERTON.


Generation Twelve

12. SIR WILLIAM12 DE WELLES (Eudo11, John10, John9, Adam8, Adam7, Robert6, William5, Robert FitzWilliam4, William FitzWalter of WELLE3, Walter _____2, Ragemer _____1), son of (11) Eudo11 and (AN-13) Maud (de GREYSTOKE) DE WELLES, was born between 1343/4 and 1405, and died between 1357/8 and 1515. He married ANNE BARNEWALL of Crickstown. [2, 10]
Lord Chancellor of Ireland 1461-1465[2]
Child:
+14i.ELIZABETH13 WELLES, b. about 1440; m. in 1463 (AHF-1) LORD CHRISTOPHER PLUNKET, b. in Meath, Ireland, d. in 1467.


Generation Thirteen

14. ELIZABETH13 WELLES (William12, Eudo11, John10, John9, Adam de WELLE8, Adam7, Robert6, William5, Robert FitzWilliam4, William FitzWalter of WELLE3, Walter _____2, Ragemer _____1), daughter of (12) Sir William12 and Anne (BARNEWALL), was born between 1353 and 1449, and died between 1464 and 1559. She married in 1463, (AHF-1) LORD CHRISTOPHER PLUNKET, who was born in Meath, and died in 1467. [2, 10]
Child: See (AHF-1) Lord Christopher PLUNKET



1. Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th ed. (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1999), (202-34+).
2. J. Orton Buck and Timothy Field Beard, Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. III (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1978), 137.
3. Aileen Lewers Langston and J. Orton Buck, Jr., Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. II (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1974), 245.
4. Ibid., 50, 193, 245.
5. Ibid., 50, 56, 193, 245.
6. Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2004), 56.
7. Ibid., 758.
8. Gary Boyd Roberts, Royal Descents of 500 Immigrants (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2002), 207, 213, 216, 219.
9. Ibid., 207, 213, 216, etc..
10. Ibid., 216.
11. Stirnet Genealogy (http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/genfam.htm), http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/bb4fz/bzmisc03.htm.
12. Ibid., http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/ww/welles01.htm.
13. Coat of Arms - The Medieval Baron de Welles Family (http://www.rootsweb.com/~wellsfam/heraldry/coa102.html).
14. Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2005), 874.
15. Ibid., 875.
16. Ancestral File, CD-ROM database (Salt Lake City: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1998).