Section AJY: Descendants of Robert de Ros

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Generation One

1. ROBERT1 DE ROS was born about 1190, and died between 1193/4 and 1310. He married SIBYL DE VALOGNES, who was born about 1190. [3, 34]
Child:
+2i.EVERARD2 DE ROS, b. about 1180/1; d. about 1200; m. ROESE TRUSSEBUT.

Generation Two

2. EVERARD2 DE ROS (Robert1), son of (1) Robert1 and Sibyl (de VALOGNES) DE ROS, was born between 1167 and 1193/4, and died between 1181 and 1277. He married ROESE TRUSSEBUT. [1, 31]
Child:
+3i.ROBERT3 DE ROOS of Helmsley, York, England, United Kingdom, b. about 1171[31] of Helmsley[31]; d. in 1227[31]; m. in 1191[31] in Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland, United Kingdom[31] (F-23) PRINCESS ISABEL OF SCOTLAND of Scotland, b. of Scotland about 1150, daughter of (F-19) King William I the Lion and (CP-2) Miss (AVENEL), [Concubine 1].

Generation Three

3. ROBERT3 DE ROOS (Everard2, Robert1) of Helmsley, son of (2) Everard2 and Roese (TRUSSEBUT) DE ROS, was born between 1116 and 1177[31] of Helmsley[31], and died in 1227[31]. He married in Haddington[31], in 1191[31], (F-23) PRINCESS ISABEL OF SCOTLAND of Scotland, daughter of (F-19) King William I the Lion and (CP-2) Miss (AVENEL), [Concubine 1], who was born about 1150 of Scotland. [10, 14, 21, 26]
of Helmsley in Holderness, Co. York, Magna Charta Surety, 1215, Knight Templar
GRAND-son of Robert de Ros and Sibyl de Valognes
Child:
+4i.SIR WILLIAM4 DE ROS of Helmsley, b. before 1200[32] of Helmsley[32]; d. about 1260[32]; m. before 24 Jan. 1234[32] (AUE-6) LUCY FITZ PIERS, d. about 1300[32], daughter of (AUE-5) Piers and (QQ-4) Alice (FITZ ROBERT) FITZ HERBERT.

Generation Four

4. SIR WILLIAM4 DE ROS (Robert3, Everard2, Robert1) of Helmsley, son of (3) Robert3 and (F-23) Princess Isabel (of SCOTLAND) DE ROOS, was born before 1200[32] of Helmsley[32], and died between 1254 and 1274[32]. He married before 24 Jan. 1234[32], (AUE-6) LUCY FITZ PIERS, daughter of (AUE-5) Piers and (QQ-4) Alice (FITZ ROBERT) FITZ HERBERT, who died about 1300[32]. [4, 11, 14, 22, 26]
M.P., 1235/6
Children:
+5i.SIR ROBERT5 DE ROS, b. about 1230/1; d. on 17 May 1285; m. before 17 May 1246 (NC-5) ISABEL D'AUBIGNY of Belvoir, Leicestershire, England, b. of Belvoir about 1275, d. on 15 June 1301[17], daughter of (NC-4) William, Lord of Belvoir and Isabel (_____).
6ii.SIR WILLIAM DE ROS of Ingmanthorpe, Yorkshire, England, b. about 1230 of Ingmanthorpe; d. between 28 March 1310 and 28 July 1310.
3rd son, served in Scotland, 1257-1258, and in Gascony, 1294

Generation Five

5. SIR ROBERT5 DE ROS (William4, Robert3, Everard2, Robert1), son of (4) Sir William4 and (AUE-6) Lucy (FITZ PIERS), was born between 1229/30 and 1232, and died on 17 May 1285. He married before 17 May 1246, (NC-5) ISABEL D'AUBIGNY of Belvoir, daughter of (NC-4) William, Lord of Belvoir and Isabel (_____), who was born about 1275 of Belvoir, and died on 15 June 1301[17]. [5, 12, 14, 23, 27, 34]
of Helmsley and Belvoir, Leicester
M.P., 1261, 1265, 1st Baron Ros of Belvoir
Children:
+7i.JOAN6 DE ROS, b. about 1276/7; d. on 13 Oct. 1348; m. (AAK-5) SIR JOHN LOVEL, b. in 1252, d. between 1 Jan. 1266 and 1 Oct. 1310, son of (AAK-4) John and (AOI-2) Maud (de SYDENHAM) LOVEL.
+8ii.WILLIAM DE ROS, 1ST BARON ROS OF HELMSLEY, b. about 1255[17]; d. in 1316[17]; m. (ARA-3) MAUDE VAUX, b. about 1300, daughter of (ARA-2) John DE VAUX.
9iii.ISABEL DE ROS, b. about 1282/3; d. about 1300.

Generation Six

7. JOAN6 DE ROS (Robert5, William4, Robert3, Everard2, Robert1), daughter of (5) Sir Robert5 and (NC-5) Isabel (D'AUBIGNY), was born between 1274 and 1278/9, and died on 13 Oct. 1348. She married (AAK-5) SIR JOHN LOVEL, son of (AAK-4) John and (AOI-2) Maud (de SYDENHAM) LOVEL, who was born in 1252, and died between 1 Jan. 1266 and 1 Oct. 1310.
Child: See (AAK-5) Sir John LOVEL
8. WILLIAM6 DE ROS, 1ST BARON ROS OF HELMSLEY (Robert5, William4, Robert3, Everard2, Robert1), son of (5) Sir Robert5 and (NC-5) Isabel (D'AUBIGNY), was born between 31 Dec. 1265 and 1278/9[17], and died in 1316[17]. He married (ARA-3) MAUDE VAUX, daughter of (ARA-2) John DE VAUX, who was born about 1300. [6, 14, 18, 28, 34]
Child:
+10i.WILLIAM7 DE ROS, 2ND LORD ROOS OF HELMSLEY, b. about 1307/8; d. on 3 FEB 1342/3[1]; m. before 25 Nov. 1326[1] (CV-7) MARGERY DE BADLESMERE of Castle, Badlesmere, Kent, England, b. of Castle in 1306, d. on 18 Oct. 1363[1], daughter of (CV-6) Baron Bartholomew and (Q-111) Margaret (de CLARE).

Generation Seven

10. WILLIAM7 DE ROS, 2ND LORD ROOS OF HELMSLEY (William6, Robert5, William4, Robert3, Everard2, Robert1), son of (8) William6, 1st Baron Ros of Helmsley and (ARA-3) Maude (VAUX), was born between 1303/4 and 1312, and died on 3 FEB 1342/3[1]. He married before 25 Nov. 1326[1], (CV-7) MARGERY DE BADLESMERE of Castle, daughter of (CV-6) Baron Bartholomew and (Q-111) Margaret (de CLARE), who was born in 1306 of Castle, and died on 18 Oct. 1363[1]. [7, 15, 19, 25]
Children:
+11i.MAUD8 DE ROOS, b. about 1330; d. on 9 Dec. 1388[29]; m. (AE-9) JOHN DE WELLES, 4TH LORD WELLES, b. on 23 Aug. 1334[29], d. on 11 Oct. 1361[29], son of (AE-8) Adam, 3rd Lord Welles and Margaret (_____).
+12ii.ALICE DE ROS, b. about 1318/9; d. between 1 Jan. and 4 July 1344[1]; m. (ACK-3) SIR NICHOLAS DE MEINILL, d. between 1 Jan. and 20 Nov. 1341[1], son of (ACK-2) Nicholas and (AOZ-3) Lucy (de THWENGE) DE MEINILL.
+13iii.THOMAS DE ROS, b. on 13 Jan. 1337[1] in Stoke Albany, Northamptonshire, England[1]; d. on 8 June 1384[1] in Uffington, Lincoln, England[1]; m. (ANG-6) BEATRICE STAFFORD, daughter of (ANG-2) Sir Ralph and (CI-7) Margaret (de AUDLEY).

Generation Eight

11. MAUD8 DE ROOS (William7, William6, Robert5, William4, Robert3, Everard2, Robert1), daughter of (10) William7, 2nd Lord Roos of Helmsley and (CV-7) Margery (de BADLESMERE), was born between 1319/20 and 1338, and died on 9 Dec. 1388[29]. She married (AE-9) JOHN DE WELLES, 4TH LORD WELLES, son of (AE-8) Adam, 3rd Lord Welles and Margaret (_____), who was born on 23 Aug. 1334[29], and died on 11 Oct. 1361[29]. [25, 30, 33]
Child: See (AE-9) John de WELLES, 4th Lord Welles
12. ALICE8 DE ROS (William7, William6, Robert5, William4, Robert3, Everard2, Robert1), daughter of (10) William7, 2nd Lord Roos of Helmsley and (CV-7) Margery (de BADLESMERE), was born between 1317 and 1319/20, and died between 1331 and 4 July 1344[1]. She married (ACK-3) SIR NICHOLAS DE MEINILL, son of (ACK-2) Nicholas and (AOZ-3) Lucy (de THWENGE) DE MEINILL, who died between 1 Jan. and 20 Nov. 1341[1]. [2, 24]
Child: See (ACK-3) Sir Nicholas de MEINILL
13. THOMAS8 DE ROS (William7, William6, Robert5, William4, Robert3, Everard2, Robert1), son of (10) William7, 2nd Lord Roos of Helmsley and (CV-7) Margery (de BADLESMERE), was born on 13 Jan. 1337[1] in Stoke Albany[1], and died on 8 June 1384[1] in Uffington[1]. He married (ANG-6) BEATRICE STAFFORD, daughter of (ANG-2) Sir Ralph and (CI-7) Margaret (de AUDLEY). [8, 16, 20]
Child:
14i.ELIZABETH9 DE ROS, b. about 1360/1; d. in 1424[1, 9]; m. (Q-116) THOMAS DE CLIFFORD, b. in 1363[13], d. on 18 Aug. 1391[1, 9], son of (Q-109) Roger of Westmorland, 5th Lord Clifford and (EE-21) Maud (de BEAUCHAMP).


1. Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th ed. (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1999).
2. Ibid., (54-35).
3. Ibid., (89-27+, 170-25+).
4. Ibid., (89-28, 170-26).
5. Ibid., (89-29, 208-29).
6. Ibid., (89-30).
7. Ibid., (89-31).
8. Ibid., (89-32).
9. von Redlich, Marcellus Donald Alexander R., Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. I (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1941), 189.
10. J. Orton Buck and Timothy Field Beard, Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. III (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1978), 247.
11. Ibid., 247, 261.
12. Ibid., 261.
13. David Clifford, to Dave Thaler, e-mail.
14. Aileen Lewers Langston and J. Orton Buck, Jr., Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. II (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1974), 251.
15. Ibid., 252.
16. Ibid., 252, 256.
17. Frederick Lewis Weis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, 5th ed. (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1999).
18. Ibid., (1-4,2-4).
19. Ibid., (1-5).
20. Ibid., (1-6).
21. Ibid., (116-1, 118-1).
22. Ibid., (116-2, 117-2).
23. Ibid., (117-3, 122A-3).
24. Ibid., (33-8).
25. Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2004), 758.
26. Gary Boyd Roberts, Royal Descents of 500 Immigrants (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2002), 330, 334, 336, etc..
27. Ibid., 334, 336, 338, etc..
28. Ibid., 336, 338, 340, 342.
29. Stirnet Genealogy (http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/genfam.htm), http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/ww/welles01.htm.
30. Coat of Arms - The Medieval Baron de Welles Family (http://www.rootsweb.com/~wellsfam/heraldry/coa102.html).
31. Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2005), 699.
32. Ibid., 700.
33. Ibid., 874.
34. Ancestral File, CD-ROM database (Salt Lake City: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1998).