Section ADW: Descendants of Roger de Montgomery

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Report generated by MagiCensus Deluxe v5.5.5 on 16 Sept. 2024
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Generation One

1. ROGER1 DE MONTGOMERY was born between 861/2 and 1008, and died between 921 and 1118. [11]
Child:
+2i.ROGER2 DE MONTGOMERY, b. before 1022; d. about 1100.

Generation Two

2. ROGER2 DE MONTGOMERY (Roger1), son of (1) Roger1 DE MONTGOMERY, was born before 1022, and died between 1022 and 1132. [11]
Child:
+3i.HUGUES3 DE MONTGOMERY, b. about 970; d. about 1040; m. in 994[11] (AM-11) JOSCELINE DE PONTAUDEMER, daughter of (AM-2) Tourade and Eva (de CREPON) DE PONTAUDEMER.

Generation Three

3. HUGUES3 DE MONTGOMERY (Roger2, Roger1), son of (2) Roger2 DE MONTGOMERY, was born between 935/6 and 980, and died between 994 and 1090. He married in 994[11], (AM-11) JOSCELINE DE PONTAUDEMER, daughter of (AM-2) Tourade and Eva (de CREPON) DE PONTAUDEMER. [11]
Child:
+4i.ROGER4 DE MONTGOMERY, b. about 1000; d. about 1070.

Generation Four

4. ROGER4 DE MONTGOMERY (Hugues3, Roger2, Roger1), son of (3) Hugues3 and (AM-11) Josceline (de PONTAUDEMER) DE MONTGOMERY, was born between 961/2 and 1008, and died between 1021 and 1118. [11]
Child:
+5i.ROGER5 DE MONTGOMERY, EARL OF SHREWSBURY of Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England, United Kingdom, b. in 1022 of Shrewsbury; d. on 27 July 1094 in Shrewsbury; m. in 1048 (LW-5) MABEL TALVAS of Alencon, Eure, France, b. of Alencon about 1026, d. about 1080[1], daughter of (LW-4) William and Hildeburge (_____) TALVAS.

Generation Five

5. ROGER5 DE MONTGOMERY, EARL OF SHREWSBURY (Roger4, Hugues3, Roger2, Roger1) of Shrewsbury, son of (4) Roger4 DE MONTGOMERY, was born in 1022 of Shrewsbury, died on 27 July 1094 in Shrewsbury and was buried in Abbey Of St. Pet, Shrewsbury. He married in 1048, (LW-5) MABEL TALVAS of Alencon, daughter of (LW-4) William and Hildeburge (_____) TALVAS, who was born about 1026 of Alencon, died about 1080[1], and was buried on 5 Dec. 1082 in Abbey of Troarn, Eure. [9, 14, 16, 18, 19]
Children:
+6i.ARNULPH6 DE MONTGOMERY, b. about 1074; d. about 1140; m. LAFRACOTH _____, b. about 1076.
+7ii.ROGER DE MONTGOMERY, b. about 1060/1; d. in 1123[10]; m. ADELMODE DE LA MARCHE, d. in 1116[10].
+8iii.SYBIL DE MONTGOMERY, b. about 1060/1; d. about 1100; m. (QK-1) ROBERT FITZ HAMON.
+9iv.MAUD DE MONTGOMERY, b. about 1036/7; d. about 1100; m. (AEC-1) ROBERT DE MORTAIN, EARL OF CORNWALL of Cornwall, England, b. of Cornwall in 1031, d. in 1095.
+10v.COUNT ROBERT II DE BELLEME of Alencon, France, b. in 1035 of Alencon; d. in 1113; m. (S-10) AGNES OF PONTHIEU of Ponthieu, France, daughter of (S-9) Count Guy I and Ada (_____).

Generation Six

6. ARNULPH6 DE MONTGOMERY (Roger5, Roger4, Hugues3, Roger2, Roger1), son of (5) Roger5, Earl of Shrewsbury and (LW-5) Mabel (TALVAS), was born between 1039/40 and 1080, and died between 1099 and 1189. He married LAFRACOTH _____, who was born about 1076.
Child:
+11i.ALICE7 DE MONTGOMERY, b. in 1100; d. about 1180; m. (AGD-4) MAURICE FITZ GERALD, b. in Windsor, Berkshire, England in 1100, d. in Abbey Grey Friar, Welford, Berkshire on 1 Sept. 1177, son of (AGD-3) Gerald and (AQE-2) Nesta Verch (RHYS) (OF ENGLAND) FITZ WALTER.
7. ROGER6 DE MONTGOMERY (Roger5, Roger4, Hugues3, Roger2, Roger1), son of (5) Roger5, Earl of Shrewsbury and (LW-5) Mabel (TALVAS), was born between 1035/6 and 1080, and died in 1123[10]. He married ADELMODE DE LA MARCHE, who died in 1116[10].
Child:
+12i.PONCE7 DE MONTGOMERY, b. about 1110; d. about 1200; m. (BL-6) COUNT WULGRIN II OF ANGOULêME, b. in Angoulême, Aquitaine, France about 1108, d. in France on 16 Nov. 1140, son of (BL-5) William III and Vitapoy (de BENAUGES) OF ANGOULêME.
8. SYBIL6 DE MONTGOMERY (Roger5, Roger4, Hugues3, Roger2, Roger1), daughter of (5) Roger5, Earl of Shrewsbury and (LW-5) Mabel (TALVAS), was born between 1035/6 and 1080, and died between 1049 and 1189. She married (QK-1) ROBERT FITZ HAMON. [16, 18]
Child: See (QK-1) Robert FITZ HAMON
9. MAUD6 DE MONTGOMERY (Roger5, Roger4, Hugues3, Roger2, Roger1), daughter of (5) Roger5, Earl of Shrewsbury and (LW-5) Mabel (TALVAS), was born between 1035/6 and 1038, and died between 1049 and 1148. She married (AEC-1) ROBERT DE MORTAIN, EARL OF CORNWALL of Cornwall, who was born in 1031 of Cornwall, and died in 1095. [8, 15]
Children: See (AEC-1) Robert de MORTAIN, Earl of Cornwall
10. COUNT ROBERT II6 DE BELLEME (Roger de MONTGOMERY5, Roger4, Hugues3, Roger2, Roger1) of Alencon, son of (5) Roger5, Earl of Shrewsbury and (LW-5) Mabel (TALVAS), was born in 1035 of Alencon, and died in 1113. He married (S-10) AGNES OF PONTHIEU of Ponthieu, daughter of (S-9) Count Guy I and Ada (_____). [2, 11]
Child:
+13i.COUNT WILLIAM III7 TALVAS of Sussex, England, b. about 1084 of Sussex; d. on 30 June 1171; m. (U-33) ALICE (OF BURGUNDY) OF TOULOUSE of Sussex, b. of Sussex about 1080, d. in 1194, daughter of (U-28) Duke Eudes I and Matilda (of BURGUNDY).

Generation Seven

11. ALICE7 DE MONTGOMERY (Arnulph6, Roger5, Roger4, Hugues3, Roger2, Roger1), daughter of (6) Arnulph6 and Lafracoth (_____) DE MONTGOMERY, was born in 1100, and died between 1150 and 1210. She married (AGD-4) MAURICE FITZ GERALD, son of (AGD-3) Gerald and (AQE-2) Nesta Verch (RHYS) (OF ENGLAND) FITZ WALTER, who was born in 1100 in Windsor, died on 1 Sept. 1177 in Abbey Grey Friar, and was buried in Abbey Grey Friar.
Child: See (AGD-4) Maurice FITZ GERALD
12. PONCE7 DE MONTGOMERY (Roger6, Roger5, Roger4, Hugues3, Roger2, Roger1), daughter of (7) Roger6 and Adelmode (de la MARCHE) DE MONTGOMERY, was born between 1068/9 and 1117, and died between 1124 and 1226. She married (BL-6) COUNT WULGRIN II OF ANGOULêME, son of (BL-5) William III and Vitapoy (de BENAUGES) OF ANGOULêME, who was born about 1108 in Angoulême, and died on 16 Nov. 1140 in France. [10]
Child: See (BL-6) Count Wulgrin II of ANGOULêME
13. COUNT WILLIAM III7 TALVAS (Robert II de BELLEME6, Roger de MONTGOMERY5, Roger4, Hugues3, Roger2, Roger1) of Sussex, son of (10) Count Robert II6 and (S-10) Agnes (of PONTHIEU), was born about 1084 of Sussex, and died on 30 June 1171. He married (U-33) ALICE (OF BURGUNDY) OF TOULOUSE of Sussex, daughter of (U-28) Duke Eudes I and Matilda (of BURGUNDY), who was born about 1080 of Sussex, and died in 1194. [11, 19]
Count of Alencon and Ponthieu[2]
Children:
+14i.ELA8 TALVAS of Sussex, b. about 1110 of Sussex; d. on 4 Oct. 1174[1]; m. (1) (ASS-5) WILLIAM III DE WARENNE, 3RD EARL OF SURREY of Vermandois, Normandy, France, b. in June 1118[17], d. in Laodicea, Syria[17] on 19 Jan. 1148[17], son of (ASS-3) William II, 2nd Earl of Surrey and (U-26) Countess Isabel Elizabeth (de VERMANDOIS) (DE BEAUMONT); m. (2) in 1149 (AKK-2) PATRICK DE SALISBURY, 1ST EARL OF SALISBURY of Salisbury, Wiltshire, England, b. of Salisbury about 1117, d. in Battle In Poitou, France on 27 March 1167, son of (AKK-1) Walter and Sybil (de CHAWORTH) DE SALISBURY.
+15ii.COUNT GUY II OF PONTHIEU of Ponthieu, b. about 1110 of Ponthieu; d. in 1147; m. IDA _____.

Generation Eight

14. ELA8 TALVAS (William III7, Robert II de BELLEME6, Roger de MONTGOMERY5, Roger4, Hugues3, Roger2, Roger1) of Sussex, daughter of (13) Count William III7 and (U-33) Alice (of BURGUNDY) (OF TOULOUSE), was born about 1110 of Sussex, was christened in And, Alencon, and died on 4 Oct. 1174[1]. She married (1st) (ASS-5) WILLIAM III DE WARENNE, 3RD EARL OF SURREY , son of (ASS-3) William II, 2nd Earl of Surrey and (U-26) Countess Isabel Elizabeth (de VERMANDOIS) (DE BEAUMONT), who was born in June 1118[17], and died on 19 Jan. 1148[17] in Laodicea[17]. She married (2nd) in 1149, (AKK-2) PATRICK DE SALISBURY, 1ST EARL OF SALISBURY of Salisbury, son of (AKK-1) Walter and Sybil (de CHAWORTH) DE SALISBURY, who was born about 1117 of Salisbury, died on 27 March 1167 in Battle In Poitou, and was buried in Abbey Of Saint H, Poitiers, France. [3, 19]
Child of: Ela8 TALVAS and William III de WARENNE, 3rd Earl of Surrey: See (ASS-5) William III de WARENNE, 3rd Earl of Surrey

Child of: Ela8 TALVAS and Patrick de SALISBURY, 1st Earl of Salisbury: See (AKK-2) Patrick de SALISBURY, 1st Earl of Salisbury
15. COUNT GUY II8 OF PONTHIEU (William III TALVAS7, Robert II de BELLEME6, Roger de MONTGOMERY5, Roger4, Hugues3, Roger2, Roger1) of Ponthieu, son of (13) Count William III7 and (U-33) Alice (of BURGUNDY) (OF TOULOUSE), was born between 1097/8 and 1131, and died in 1147. He married IDA _____. [4, 11]
Child:
+16i.COUNT JEAN I9 OF PONTHIEU, b. about 1135; d. in 1191; m. before 1179 (ANE-2) BEATRICE CANDAVAINE of St. Pol, France, b. of St. Pol about 1135, daughter of (ANE-1) Count Anselme and (AQC-24) Eustachie (de CHAMPAGNE).

Generation Nine

16. COUNT JEAN I9 OF PONTHIEU (Guy II8, William III TALVAS7, Robert II de BELLEME6, Roger de MONTGOMERY5, Roger4, Hugues3, Roger2, Roger1), son of (15) Count Guy II8 and Ida (_____), was born about 1135, and died in 1191. He married before 1179, (ANE-2) BEATRICE CANDAVAINE of St. Pol, daughter of (ANE-1) Count Anselme and (AQC-24) Eustachie (de CHAMPAGNE), who was born about 1135 of St. Pol. [5, 11]
Child:
+17i.WILLIAM III10 PONTHIEU, b. in 1179 in France; d. in 1221 in France; m. on 20 Aug. 1195 in Castile, Spain (U-38) ALIX OF FRANCE, COUNTESS OF VEXIN, b. in France about 1170, d. in 1221, daughter of (U-30) King Louis VII and (AQC-15) Alice, Countess (of CHAMPAGNE).

Generation Ten

17. WILLIAM III10 PONTHIEU (Jean I9, Guy II8, William III TALVAS7, Robert II de BELLEME6, Roger de MONTGOMERY5, Roger4, Hugues3, Roger2, Roger1), son of (16) Count Jean I9 and (ANE-2) Beatrice (CANDAVAINE), was born in 1179 in France, and died in 1221 in France. He married in Castile, on 20 Aug. 1195, (U-38) ALIX OF FRANCE, COUNTESS OF VEXIN, daughter of (U-30) King Louis VII and (AQC-15) Alice, Countess (of CHAMPAGNE), who was born about 1170 in France, and died in 1221. [6, 13]
Child:
+18i.COUNTESS MARIE11 OF PONTHIEU of Aumale, Seine-Maritime, France, b. about 1186 of Aumale; d. in 1251 in Spain; m. about 1212 in Aumale (AAY-4) SIMON DE DAMMARTIN of Barcelona, Spain, b. of Barcelona about 1180, d. in Castile in 1239, son of (AAY-1) Albri, Count of Dammartin and (KW-5) Matilda (of CLERMONT).

Generation Eleven

18. COUNTESS MARIE11 OF PONTHIEU (William III10, Jean I9, Guy II8, William III TALVAS7, Robert II de BELLEME6, Roger de MONTGOMERY5, Roger4, Hugues3, Roger2, Roger1) of Aumale, daughter of (17) William III10 and (U-38) Alix (of FRANCE), Countess of Vexin PONTHIEU, was born between 1192/3 and 1196 of Aumale, and died in 1251 in Spain. She married in Aumale, about 1212, (AAY-4) SIMON DE DAMMARTIN of Barcelona, son of (AAY-1) Albri, Count of Dammartin and (KW-5) Matilda (of CLERMONT), who was born about 1180 of Barcelona, and died in 1239 in Castile. [7, 12]
Child: See (AAY-4) Simon de DAMMARTIN


1. Frederick Lewis Weis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th ed. (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1999).
2. Ibid., (108-25+).
3. Ibid., (108-26).
4. Ibid., (109-26).
5. Ibid., (109-27).
6. Ibid., (109-28).
7. Ibid., (109-29).
8. Ibid., (185-1+).
9. Ibid., (185-1+, 124-26+).
10. W. H. Turton, The Plantagenet Ancestry (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1928), 10.
11. Ibid., 13.
12. Ibid., 4.
13. Ibid., 4, 13.
14. Ibid., 8, 10, 13.
15. Ibid., 8, 126.
16. J. Orton Buck and Timothy Field Beard, Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. III (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1978), 167, 207.
17. Aileen Lewers Langston and J. Orton Buck, Jr., Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants, Vol. II (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1974), 170.
18. Ibid., 62.
19. Ancestral File, CD-ROM database (Salt Lake City: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1998).